Hannibal faceless gif1/13/2024 I have no issues with them changing Lady Stoneheart's 'kill all Freys' plot to Arya, because that's a change that makes sense since they're both characters whose main motivation is revenge, but Arya taking up her cannibal cooking skills just rings hollow. Meanwhile, Arya butchering the Freys and cooking them into a pie in their own castle signifies, uhm, just Arya being in a particularly cruel mood that day? The character who makes them kills the Freys when they visit his court in a friendly/political visit (echoing the killing of the Starks by the Freys in the same kind of situation and the story of the Rat Cook, who also did the same thing to visiting guests). The Frey pie scene in the book is a form of ironic justice. It one of those examples where D&D take an event from the books involving a character they pretty much cut from the show, changing the character involved and not think about the narrative consequences of doing so. Yes, her experiences have made her into an unstable, revenge-bend person (as it also does in the books), but it's still very hard to buy that Arya would choose to trick Walder Frey into cannibalism just 'cause. It's like shelling out $100 for an extremely fancy buffet and you run right past the steak and lobster tails and all you decide to eat is a small saladĬlick to shrink.I wasn't saying she should've been nice or anything. I just feel like this is an odd choice of scene to lay out the hyperbolic superlative of "dumbest in the series" about. I'm not trying to argue too hard here though like I get it lol I love Thrones but it's written like solid ass a lot of the time esp once they pass the books (and tbh maybe more often in earlier seasons than people would like to admit) I totally sympathize if one has a low tolerance for stupid bullshit don't get me wrong but if that's the case I have to wonder how that kind of person made it past season 5 Bonus s7 dumb: when Tyrion suggests the plan itself) Please slap me if I ever pull that kind of "there's no time!" shit when writing. (EDIT: just my opinion: I'd posit that for s7 it's Jon's contrived obligatory self-sacrifice only to be saved by Benjen's contrived obligatory self-sacrifice. Remember that this topic exists to discuss whether it is "the dumbest scene" in the whole show and. ![]() ScholaGladiatoria did a great analysis of the fight, I definitely recommend you give it a watch -Ĭlick to shrink.I mean I guess what I'm saying is that they are all more worth complaining about than this pretty harmless bit of fanservice with fault that lies mostly with the execution of the intended setup and not with the scene itself This scene was meant to show us she is also an exceptionally dangerous opponent in battle, too. She is an exceptionally dangerous assassin, we know this. She also had extensive martial training with the Faceless Men, even learning to fight blind. He doesn't even get a hit in on the Water Dancer in their very short engagement, that's how much trouble Westerosi warriors have with people trained as such.Īrya trained for a short while with the First Sword of Braavos and kept up her training wherever she went. ![]() Without the intervention of the spear-wielding warrior, Jorah is dead. Just tears him apart with no effort at all, and Jorah is wearing a considerable amount of plate armour - only his arms and below his waist are unprotected. ![]() In this scene he faces a fully trained Water Dancer in the fighting pits, and the Water Dancer destroys him. Jorah Mormont is a very competent fighter who was given a knight's worth of training, the same as Robb and Jon, and probably by his similarly competent father. Syrio Forel defeated several members of the King's Guard at once with nothing but a short wooden sword, and then there is this scene. We do know that Westerosi knights have serious problems when facing Water Dancers. Also, the match ended in a draw, so why people are treating it like Brienne lost, I don't know. That moment when she hits Brienne's wrist is a good example - Brienne recoils and it looks like Arya's won a point, but why? With that armour it shouldn't have any affect on her at all. Arya is shown slicing with her rapier against an opponent in plate armour, which is stupid. I thought it was pretty stupid, but only the execution, not the concept.
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